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#28: Odin’s Roundtable: Exploring Healing & Awakening

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What if the chaos of our times isn’t the end — but the beginning of something greater?

In this first edition of Odin’s Roundtable, we sit down with three master healers —Niki Hughes, Denise Grams, and Tammi Grantham — for a wide-ranging conversation on the turbulence of our world, the hidden traumas that shape us, and the path toward higher consciousness.

From past life regressions to medical intuition, energy work to multidimensional healing, each of these practitioners brings decades of experience helping people break through fear, release old patterns, and rediscover their freedom. Together, they explore why unresolved trauma is resurfacing now, how collective frequency shifts are reshaping relationships, and what it means to live with an open heart in evolutionary times.

This isn’t about escaping the mess of the world — it’s about recognizing that every challenge is a call to grow lighter, freer, and more connected. As this roundtable reveals, healing is not only possible, it’s essential for creating the shared vision humanity longs for.

Topics We Explore:

  • Why so much old trauma and patterning is resurfacing now
  • How fear and resistance block personal growth — and how to move through them
  • The difference between “how” and “why” when it comes to transformation
  • What happens when people choose to stay in low-frequency states
  • Why opening the heart is the foundation of spiritual awakening
  • Daily practices for grounding, resilience, and connection
  • The future of humanity: suffering through cycles vs. leveling up together

Connect with Niki Hughes: https://www.elementalbalance.ca/ 

Connect with Tammi Grantham: https://www.tammig.com/ 

Connect with Denise Grams: http://www.denisegrams.com/

Learn More about The Viking Academy: https://www.vikingacademy.com



Episode Transcript: 

Hi everyone and welcome back to this special edition of the Viking Academy podcast. Now today we are doing what's called Odin's roundt. That's right, Odin's round table. I have brought in three master healers to do a roundt discussion about what's going on in the world, why we're seeing everything so [ __ ] up the way it is, and the reasons for that and what you can do to break yourself free from it. Now these are three people that if you've watched or listened to the podcast, you will know who they are. One is Denise Grahams, there's Nikki Hughes, and there's Tammy Grantham. We go deep into what I just talked about like in terms of what's going on in the world, what you can do

to change it for yourself. Um, what the common mental and shall we call it emotional blockers people have and what you can actually do to remove those for yourself. We talked about what the world really needs is a shared vision, but it all starts with you, the individual, which is very much in alignment with the Viking Academy ethos. It's about taking responsibility for yourself and charging forward. Um, I am going to relisten to this podcast over and over again. I think we're going to do this a lot more in the future. Um, I'm calling it Odin's

round table because we're bringing together these these top thinkers, these top healers in the world. And you should see the dynamic that happens between the three of them. they start sharing and feeding off each other and there's a ton of ahas in this episode. So again, um the oh then the last thing I'll also mention is that we I at the end I actually included questions directly from Viking Academy members. So if you're not a member of the Viking Academy, go on to the website vikingacademy.com, join the membership. It's absolutely free. Um and you could be part of this as well. So, we got some uh Viking Academy members got to ask their specific questions. And if you are those

few that did those questions, you send them into me. I asked them and the answer for you specifically will be on this podcast. So, there you go. Without minutesfurther ado, let's go explore. Welcome to Odin's Roundtable. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Okay, this will be interesting. This is the first time I've done uh we've done a podcast with uh with four people on.

I've actually had I've I've done the trifecta with Stell and uh Chad. Uh we did three of us and but this is now four of us. So, this is going to be really interesting. Um but I'm really excited about this. Um Tammy, you mentioned something just at the beginning at the end there. What did you say? It's a something and it'll be interesting how how it happens. Can you explain that?

It's the eclipse season. We just had an eclipse yesterday and Yeah. And I'm sure Denise would know a lot about that too. Um and so this is a shakeup month. It's really like So earlier when you were explaining the things that were going on. Well, that's the eclipse. That's how it works. Oh, right. So, I was explaining to everyone uh as we were in the backstage there ready to come on to the recording that um it seemed to be a complete [ __ ] show at my house. Like literally um my daughter's sick at home. The movers are

finally moving our stuff back in downstairs. We've had a three and a half month remediation on the home. So, the stuff's getting moved back in. That's exciting. But then there's movers making noise downstairs. And then to top it off, my aging dog Rocky is literally [ __ ] all over the house like with diarrhea. and I'm like running around putting a diaper on them and trying to clean this thing up and get on time for the Odin's round table.

So, case in point, yes, it's definitely Eclipse. Um, okay. So, welcome to the first Odin's round table. So, what I'd like to do is we've done I've done individual podcasts with each one of you. Um, and so everybody knows uh if they've done that, they know some deep dives on each individual what you do. But I wouldn't mind just doing a quick little little round round table. Get it?

I just how I did that there. We're gonna do a quick round table uh to share who you are, what you're what you do, and then I'm going to get into some curated questions and eventually we're going to get to some Viking Academy Q&As's which the Viking Academy members, if you're not a member, join. It's free. You can they've put in some of their questions and are going to be able to get to ask you directly on the healing. So Nikki, why don't you fire away and get us started? Sure. Thanks, Eric. Thanks for having me on, too. This is going to be fun. It's going to be a whole new adventure. Um, so thanks for having me.

I am Nikki and I am a hypnotherapist and I've been doing that for about I don't know 14, 15 years now and started off with energy work and it just, you know, I'm a real lover of learning and so I just keep adding things, right? So, hypnotherapist, uh, meditation teacher, mindfulness teacher, um, author and, um, podcaster too. I have my own podcast.

So, um, one of the things that I do that's one of my specialties though is I work in the spiritual space. So, I do current life work, but I also do past life work. So, going back and clearing up whatever is blocking people to make this life feel so much better. And I also do spiritual regression work which we've gone through together going out into the spirit realms to really understand who you are uh from a spiritual consciousness perspective. So yeah.

Yeah. And and if I didn't mention it at the beginning, which I'm pretty sure I didn't, for everyone who's listening or watching the podcast here, these are all my healers. So I've done I do work on a regular basis with all of them. and and uh what Nikki was referring to is we actually did a podcast together where we went into a deep dive on my past life regressions and it was awesome. So uh go back and check out those podcasts uh to to hear what we were just talking about there. Um Denise, why don't you introduce yourself?

Okay. Well, I've been working in uh energy work for I guess 35 years now. And I was just uh it was interesting. I was I was thinking the other day I should I should have a look and see what what have I been doing for 35 years and I and I wrote down I I like 10 or 12 you know modalities that I've studied and I've you know all of that. So I've been I've been at this for a while. Um, you know, this the energy work that I do, I I do call it body talk and and is body talk, but I have fused everything that I've learned in the last 35 years into one. I have I have to find another kind of a name for it for what I do. Well,

so the energy work is I'm working mostly remotely now since COVID because of course nobody could come in and so I had been working um uh remotely quite a bit but now I'm doing it all the time. And so what I'm doing is um I'm working basically with uh a person's feel. we're connected in that way through quantum physics. Of course, we know that we're that's an easy piece and uh and the work that I do is uh looking to um looking for unresolved trauma and that's that can be past lives, it can be present time. Um some sometimes my work takes me into the future for future progression for people. Um but what we know is you

know um the issues as we say the issues are in the tissues and so it's my job to to work with the unresolved trauma and break through um and find out whatever information we can for people. Um, often it's timing uh has a lot to do with timing and it has a lot to do with childhood trauma, unresolved childhood trauma. And we know there's been a lot of that for most people.

And so to to do the to resolve the trauma of truth, you know, clearings, corrections, balances, all those kinds of things and bring people forward so that they can, you know, so that they can live a higher vibration because basically this is what every one of us wants. We say you want to be happy or content or have peace, but basically we're talking about living in a higher vibration so that so that we can carry on and do the work that we're supposed to be doing. Like we all have we all have a mission in this life.

And now if the the listener uh especially for those in the Viking Academy, can you understand now why I've had uh these healers on the podcast is because they're right in alignment with my ethos on the Viking Academy. And again, um, we've done through a lot of cleaning and past life, uh, or past traumas, uh, in current and past lives with me and Denise, and it's been a it's been incredible. Um, incredible amount of work there done. And, uh, yeah. So, let's move on to Tammy.

Let's get your intro and then I want to jump into the the juicy stuff. Well, I consider myself a multi-dimensional healer on many levels. So again, astrology, love it, medical intuitive. Um, since I was little, I've I've seen people who have passed and um, so I took a lot of different modalities to kind of see what really works for me.

I can dabble into the past and present timelines. Um, assist people with their next step. I'm not really worried about the outcome, but just kind of like where you need to be. Bring them back to the present moment. And I work with um kind of understanding patterns and and showing people that you know the repetitive patterns and where they came from and going back and and taking a look at that so people can move forward.

So I've been doing this for well on and off 30 years. And so you just kind of find things and then you keep adding to your toolbox. And so part of my goal is to give people tools to be able to move forward and assist and instead of being stuck. So I love that we I remember when we were on the podcast and we've talked about this before Tammy is that yours is like a flashlight in the fog and you're going there's the next step. It's kind of there's the next one in front of you because we can't really see what's happening but we can you help us get to that next step. That's next step in our vibrational leveling up as you said

Denise. And then yeah, I totally I I again I endorse all these messages everyone by the way because I mean that's why we're that's why I'm having everybody on here. Okay, so let's go into this. I'm very curious and and please feel free to kind of weave in and out and and put in your two bits and and your thoughts and because the idea here is I want to make this a very minutescollaborative process. I I wanted to see what would happen when I bring these three amazing healers together and these and the energy and the and the intentionality to see what comes out of this. And I'm very interested in exploring that. But one of the things that I was very curious on for all of

you to kind of comment on is what have you seen lately with all the people that you're working with in your healings that you're doing with them and and maybe for yourself as well, but what have you seen in terms of patterns that has been emerging in the last little while? Well, I can comment on that if that's okay for me to just jump in. um trauma. Oh my goodness, the old stuff is coming up.

So all the stuff that's been uh suppressed, pushed down, even the stuff that people think that they've cleared, it's like, oh my goodness, it's back cuz healing is circular, right? So the universe takes you back in to take to just see if it's really gone, right? And so that little bit comes back up. And yeah, that even for me, like I'm I do a lot of my own work and see a lot of different healers, too. Yeah.

And but I have found too that the stuff that I thought was gone, it's like, "Wow, where did that come from the other day?" It's like, "Oh, that comes from, you know, my past. I guess I better go back in there and do some work." So, as healers, we're not immune to it ourselves, right? We're humans, too. But that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a lot of old stuff come up. I'm seeing a lot of people um come to me to talk about their patterns and get rid of their patterns. Um a lot of stress, a lot of stress right now in the system and um a lot of physical challenges too. Like there's a lot of physical challenges that seem to be coming up for a lot of people.

Um digestive issues and that's the root chakra, right? That's all about safety. So that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a lot of that. That's curious because actually the um so again the house remediation the fix we had the plumber in here fixing one of the uh one of the faucets and he was talking to me about the fact that he stopped drinking caffeine as well cuz he said it was upsetting his stomach and I was like yeah I quit that 13 years ago and he's like yeah know I just I've gotten rid of it I feel so much better. We had a couple movers here and they were like, we asked them, "Oh, would you like a coffee?" And they said, "Actually, can we have a green tea?"

Like the came in and they want the green tea because they were just like antioxidants and they So there seems to be that right now. Right now we're building our light bodies. So we're we're taking in more light. Yeah. And so we don't have as much physical density. Like we're shifting out of that. And so we are needing to eat lighter. We're needing to eat differently. We're needing to eat more high frequency. And so we're starting to see that and it's happening for a lot of people intuitive intuitively and it's happening for a lot of people because of physical stuff happening. It's like you have to address it, right?

Okay. For so those who are not watching the video and you're listening to the audio, I'm watching Denise and Tammy like bobblehead dolls and they're just nodding up and down. Okay. I want one of you to please Tammy throw throw your throw your thoughts in on this because you're both just it's funny. bobblehead dolly and go, "Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep." 100%. It's It really is um getting to the layers, right? We're layers. And as soon as you think you've done it, the universe sits there and says, "Um, no."

Like this. And so all this physical pain we're feeling too is a lot of emotions that got stuck in our body that is now coming to the surface because we can't hold on to it anymore. And those who won't like who can't let it go will not level up. It's a it's an energy thing that our bodies now need to be lighter.

And even my spirits are like, "Get on that treadmill, girl. You got to move your body, you know?" And I'm like, "But I'm comfortable." They're like, "You still got to move the energy." Right? It's the old stuck patterns trauma. So yeah, we're it's we're seeing probably a lot of the same thing over and over again is what I see.

And you know, this is what I love about all of you is that um we're not only you're not only healing others, but you're healing yourself at the same time. It's like I I like I've when I'm working with people as a coach, it's like look, I'm a coach, business coach, and and I do, you know, mindset coaching and and and that and I I haven't gone into the spiritual realm yet, but I know you're all looking at me going, "When are you going to do that, Eric? I know. I know.

We're we're getting there. We're getting there." But I I say if you have a coach who doesn't have a coach, you need a new coach. That's what I love about all of you. It's like if you have a healer who doesn't have a healer or is not healing themselves, who are not growing, then you need to find someone new, right? Because it's it's it's this. So, so here's my question. Is is this is this an exciting time, Denise, for you to see this happening or is it like is it like we're hearing this all these traumas, these negative things, but underlying that, isn't there something exciting about this?

It's, you know, it's it's what they call an evolutionary time. It's we are in the peak of a blow up basically. It's like I was thinking this morning. It's kind of like putting a bunch of chunks of food in a blender. You know when you turn that blender on, it goes it just has a hard time and then it levels out. Well, we're in the hard times. We are definitely in the hard times. I think we've got another couple of years to go.

But and those are the times that that we're in. And building up to this time, you know, everything is cycles. We we operate, we live in cycles, you know, everything the planets move in cycles and we are in a cycle right now that is actually going to be, you know, I think it's going to take us through. A lot of people aren't thinking that right now. So, there's a lot of fear on the planet.

And there's um and when we talk about you know resolving the trauma like either past lives or whatever however we work um this this trauma it goes back hundreds of years. If we look at our planet it's been a mess for a long time you know but people haven't we we don't ever remember a time we don't have any recorded history of time where everything was just lovely. It wasn't.

So, humanity is we're growing. We're evolving and and it's that's true. We're we're we're taking on a a a new body and a life body. And we have to really work with that because there's so much heaviness. So, the imprints are so deep. And that's why people say, you know, I've already worked with that. I don't want to deal with that. And then that's one of the first things that'll come up because it's a cycle. Everything is a cycle.

Goes around again and around again. So it is an evolutionary time and I think one of the things that we have to absolutely remember is that this is a time this is the time to open our hearts. This is the time for kindness for compassion to for everybody people that just drive us crazy. It doesn't matter like do your best to open your heart because that's the thing that will help people. There isn't anything else like when they say there's only love it really and love manifests in a million ways and that's what we have to do.

No, that's and so one of the things that I was Tammy's mentioned this to me many times is she talks about the conditioning that the human it's removing the conditioning. Yeah. Something just hit me the other day is the um is the programming. For some reason, that word just came back into my head and I'm like, it just seems to land more of a more of a modern way of talking about it. It's like how how is my programming serving me today? Because I look at how my I'm programmed to see the world. And instantly when I start seeing other people as they are programmed to behave the way they do, instantly I have empathy and infants in instantly I

actually forgive them for doing whatever they're doing because they're programmed to do that. Yeah. And there's that kind of that opening of the the understanding, right? That that understanding that's opening up. Um and uh it's it's a lot lighter, you know, and and so one of the things that you came out of this is like I think about there's two ways of looking at this. One is it's the wor it's the best of times, it's the worst of times, right? So there's like a you can look at the positive side or you can look at the negative side. And so one of the things that I can't remember who said that is that what happens for those who cannot let go of this and hold on. I want to

talk about that just briefly just say well what happens to someone who doesn't want to level up and keeps holding on to the old energy and and and connects themselves down and then I also want to talk about what's the upside what happens when we do let go and and and go that. So let's just talk about the so we call it the worst of times briefly because I'm not a fan of going there. I don't like putting my mindset there. But just for a brief , let's talk about it and then I want to spend more time on what's the possibilities for us as a human race like what where could we actually go? So what happens to those who don't want to get better or when all

of a sudden for myself I go nope don't want to fix that. Don't want to touch it. I I can make a comment there is if that's okay. Please go. Yes. Okay. You know I I I don't think they don't want to. I think there's just fear. um a fear of of working through um of feeling the pain of you know there's fear just put it that way and um and what that does you know fear contracts and so so then we're talking about density in the physical body because that's where everything ends up everything ends up in the physical body and we're talking about digestive problems well everything goes through

the gut if we're clearing everything has to go through the gut right So, so density happens and people I mean people can live long lives in a dense situation. Lots of people do. It's it's just the way they do it and they've got a right to view their life that way. So, we have to just leave them alone to themselves and um you know support them when they want support and leave it alone.

It's like attraction rather than promotion. The idea that yeah, you like it. One of the interesting one of the questions that came up that I actually I wasn't even going to ask it but now it's it's it's spurred me to want to actually ask the question or to comment on it is like how do you help someone who doesn't want to get well? And I'm like well you just don't because you can't force them right like if they're not interested in it's it's either attractive rather than attraction rather than promotion on this. But so so in other words, you're saying that if someone's stuck in there, they can live the rest of their lives.

It's not like they're going to die quickly, like cuz that's our ultimate fear is death. It's not like if you decide to not level up. It's not like your life will end quicker. It is just you can live a long life being in that low energy vibration and you're just going to suffer through it. Is that the is that the you know, Nikki, I see you nodding.

Yeah. And I I think I think along with that is when we talk in terms of frequency and us leveling up, you're going to find more of those people in your life that are in that state falling away because you just don't resonate with them. And I think that's where some of the split comes from where they say, "Oh yeah, you know, there's going to people who are in a lower frequency aren't coming with us." It's like, well, they're still going to be here. They're just probably not going to be in your life, right? We're not creating a new planet as far as I know, but but they're just not going to be in your life anymore. And that's something else that

I've noticed over the past few months is there's a lot of relationships that are splitting. Yes. And I think it and I believe that's because of the frequency shifts. So people who are not willing to budge, not willing to change, they just don't resonate with each other on a frequency level. So they can't be around each other anymore, right? So, they'll be living their life in a lower frequency way and you will be living your life in a higher frequency way, attracting higher frequency people to you. Um, improving the quality of your life.

I did. Do you see what just happened there? I talked about the negative and I'd like to focus on the positive and the negative you talked about actually should fit into the positive, which is the people aren't going to go away. If you want to stay in the lower vibration, it's a choice, be it subconscious or conscious, but you'll still be here, but you're not maybe going to experience the best life you possibly can or what's calling in in your soul to elevate or level up or become lighter and more free to be yourself. I mean that Tammy, you and I have gone over this multiple times. For me, that's my whole ethos is like I'm just constantly looking things

to get them out of the way to break me free so I can creatively express myself. The Viking Academy is one of those things and we did a lot of work on that. For people who want to stay stuck, maybe the thing that is more of attraction rather than promotion is going if you do start facing these fears and working and doing some healing work with with you three lovely healers, you can get some breakthroughs and start living that life that you actually want for yourself.

Exactly. And it's, you know, then we go right back to that conditioning. So again, there will be people who lead the planet and we know that with the frequency as it does, but again, there's others that will stay in that frequency. I don't feel our planet wants to suffer anymore, though. So we as we our frequencies go up, right? We're not going to see them as much because we're going to be in a different frequency. So it's not like they they just all die off like we were saying. It's just that the frequency, the higher our frequency, we see what we need to see to do our service here in this world.

So when you say they leave or they're not here, are they here or are they not here? I'm kind of and people will leave this planet. And when you say that, what does that mean? Like like they will pass on. I do see that. I really as a psychic medium, I see a lot of them not wanting to stay here anymore. They've done their mission. They're ready to go home. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. And but then there's the other ones that again due to fear, they're kind of in that stuck. They haven't found their healer. They haven't found their way yet or they're still stuck in a pattern and eventually they'll find their way or they won't. And that's okay. They'll stay in the frequency they need to. It's like when we stay in a habit, right, for a long time and we it's like I know I need to do better, but I can't get out of that habit. So then I ask that universe, start bringing my people to help me get out of that, right? And then they show up.

So when we're talking about the person, they're going to leave the planet or they finally die and is that mean they die and they're not going to come back here again? Is that what we're talking about? like recycling and trying to cuz all the work that I've done with a lot of you has been here's my past life here's what I went through there this is my next spin and my understanding is and I can't remember which one of you told me if not all of you is that this is my last spin here and on this mine too my last spin yes yeah it's my last spin on this planet but this doesn't mean that I don't end I'm going to just continue on somewhere else right so we're talking about this

reincarnation into a life again on this planet as opposed to reincarnation and going to another realm or dimension or another planet. minutesAbsolutely. I'd like to make comment about just to go back to, you know, people that don't want to change or whatever. I really think that those um those imprints or those attitudes or beliefs are all fear-based.

And the one thing that we can do as people as we raise our our vibration ourselves is we can show those people kindness. And it's true that we, you know, we'll find ourselves separating from those people. Of course, we will. And I I just think they need kindness because their trauma is so deep and this this lifetime may not give them maybe the opportunities or enough courage to actually work through much of anything.

So it isn't so much that they don't want to change. I just it's just they can't they don't they can't they don't understand. They don't get it. They live in this in this place that is very um um I don't sorry I I just lost the word but it's just so tight. It's heavy heavy heavy they don't understand freedom would be very frightening to them. So I I agree Denise and I also think that they're not aware a lot not aware. No, of course.

People who are waking up now and becoming more um consciously aware of themselves as uh spirits consciousness beyond the human body. I'm seeing that the folks who um are stuck in their it's almost like a victim mentality and you know all of that stuff that's fear but they're they haven't woken up to the fact that they're responsible for what's happening you know like responsible for what's being created here and that's a hard message for a lot of people.

I know like why the heck would I create all of that? So I agree. You're telling me all this [ __ ] is my fault? Yes. WTF? Yeah. Yeah. Um and so so the so if I was to extract a simplistic the simple message on this is that every single human being on the planet yearns for freedom from this three-dimensional heavy space whether be it conscious or subconscious or unconscious.

Some are consciously aware of the fact they want to break free like me. I want out but not out but I want up and through. Like I'm looking to I've always been like that since I was a kid. I always just like let's let's have fun. Like let's live right large. A lot of the things that are blocking me are completely unconscious and I know that. That's why I'm doing this work with you. But then there's others that are they're in there and they're not even consciously aware that they want to actually elevate or they want to free themselves from this three-dimensional heavy space. And so there's in that

victim mentality where it's all it's like it's happening to me and I have no way out. And it's but there's still something yearning inside. If there wasn't a yearning inside that would they wouldn't care, would they? Would we? Like there's a good question. Like if we didn't have that internal kind of homing beacon in us trying to take us home so to speak, would we even care if we were suffering? There's the thought.

Good point. Then just so lacking the desire, desire is something that we want. So if we lack the desire, we're just going to put one foot in front of the other and get through the day and get through the week and get through the years and get through my life. Yeah. I'll just get out of here. So, it's desire. And desire is based on I know there's more. I mean, desire is based on awareness that there's there's more.

I don't know what it is. I don't know what to call it, but it's there. Yeah. It's like it's hope. Yeah. There's something more, right? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But sometimes the pain is so big they can't feel that little beacon of light. They haven't had the opportunity to get the the the light sparked. Right.

Right. They haven't they're so deep in their stuff they they haven't had that opportunity. So, and it may happen in this life or it may happen in another one. Yep. This rings so much of Alcoholics Anonymous like just I would just think I'm sitting here going this is what we were like literally on the weekend I was talking to some uh there were some newcomers there like three days sober, 10 days sober and I'm sharing with them and I'm just sharing my experience, strength and hope. So then they can actually go, oh, there's some there's actually hope out there. So the work

that we're all doing here right now for me is also to get that message out that there is that hope. But people don't even really know it's there. Have Have you you know, Tammy, have you ever worked with someone where they came in and they didn't even know? They didn't even know they they couldn't consciously express what they wanted but going working with you and I want to share that that question with all three of you actually that they all of a sudden had this oh yes that's what I've been looking for. I've been looking for that hope and they have that aha moment.

And to me then that goes back to the patterns once we start to work through some of the things that they can see where it lies in themselves and where it came from and then they can take ownership and go okay I oh I didn't even know that was possible. Right. Because they're stuck in a pattern and and the patterns can go like seven generations back. Oh goodness.

Right. Right. So, it's one of those things that, you know, we we're here for to eventually master this human experience. So, we come back and we keep doing it. So, when people have that aha moment, it's like for me, a code just dropped in. It got activated. I'm like, yes, they can now see a little bit of light shined, right? And now that's the hope that they're just like that, you know, like a puzzle. Think of a puzzle.

somebody hands you that piece that you've been looking for for weeks and it's just like there it is and then the whole perspective changes. Does that does that give you and each for each one of you when you're working with someone and you see them have that aha moment? Isn't that that dopamine I I don't know if that's the right terminology and you can correct me on this one, but it's that dopamine hit that we get or that little rush of excitement when I see someone else get something when I work with someone coaching wise and they get it and they see this little the spark in their eyes and I'm like and I get excited from

that. That feeds me. Does that feed all of you in your healing when you're working with others? Oh yes. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean that's you know I don't know about you Nikki or Tammy but it's kind of like a you know every session that I do it's it's I'm going into the unknown. I don't know what's there and it comes to me and I test and it says yes or no or whatever but it's like a a it's kind of like a a a spiritual e Easter egg hunt. This is what it is. You're just looking, you know, or or some people you know I don't know. It's just wonderful. And then you hit you you hit per and it's just it's such a lovely thing. It's such a lovely thing. I don't know. It's it's such a

beautiful way to live your life to be able to do this work. It's such a privilege. I think it's an absolute revelation. And you know, it's true, Denise. I I I'm the same where with me, I use hypnosis. So people are kind of under in their trance state. They're moving through their stuff. Yeah. they come up, they're kind of still tranced out. I don't get a lot of feedback, right? Because they're in their they're still in their woohoo happy state.

Um, but I always know in my own heart whether I hear that sweet spot. Yes. Yes. And I can I can feel it and go, "Oh, great. That's why I'm doing this work. Thank you for that." Because once again, I'm back on the motivation path. Right. Exactly. But yes, that's why we're here. We're here to ignite that in the person. And when you can do that, it's really rewarding. Yeah. Yeah.

And I agree with that because I feel it in the heart. Not the rush so much, but it's like this h another piece of the heart just opened up and they could they got to see it, right? So that's where the energy is felt for me as well. Yeah. And does that become a code to to get back to your verbiage that you use, Tammy, is that become a code that you needed as well because the person it's like a a full-on collaboration between you and the person. So you're the healer and the person is the heal, but you're actually in a collaboration because when they have an aha and it's the code that you actually needed for yourself. Do you recognize that in yourself or do you

have these aha moments inside yourself when you're working with someone else? I look at everybody as me. So everybody who comes to me is a version of me. And it could be a past me, present me, or higher me. So everybody's teaching and healing. We're healing each other. That's the whole point to this planet. So you come in with these codes. Then I was like, "Oh yeah, you just you you lit them up for me as well because you're a higher or a present or a past version of myself where I still needed healing, right? So then we bring it into the present moment and then we activate the code."

I love that, Tammy, because that's so relevant for me as well. people will show up and I'm like, why are we talking about the thing that I'm dealing with, you know, and it's because it's that mirror. I look at it as the mirror. So, it is me sitting across, but there's always something that I get from my clients and the work that we do together that's very healing for me as well. You probably find the same thing, right, Denise?

Absolutely. I do. And and it's so interesting because as as you know I'm an astrologer as well and I'll often you know they'll want me to look at their chart at some point or something and the charts are always kind of like there's like you know if you've ever done family uh family work you know there's all of this going on with the planets are all overlapping and you know conjuncting and everything. And it's the same with my clients. And it's true. You know, somebody will come in with, you know, a pain in their whatever and I'll say, "Oh, all right. Well, we've got that."

And it's so interesting because you, you know, you just attract uh you know, we're in this we're in this work and we attract what we need and and they're attracted to what they need. And so that person will stay, you know, a long time to work it work it through. I think What are some of the common mental or emotional blocks that you've seen lately um with people and and how do you help them through that? Like especially right now, what's going on in the world? Which it's funny because I've been doing a podcast and I've been in business for a long time and I see this and every single week it seems to be like, "Oh man, this is crazy times. This is

crazy." And it seems to be getting nuttier by the . like it's getting more chaotic by the and it's we I I've spoken with all three of you about this and even years ago I'm talking to you and it's like man it's crazy everything's getting crazy and it getting crazier and crazier so what are you finding again just to reiterate the question what are the common mental and emotional blocks that you've seen and then how do you help people break through that just for the listener in case they're having these these these uh these same kind of mental and emotional blocks Well, I it's kind of a hard question really, but as Nikki, as you said, um you know,

minutesthere's a lot of relationship issues. Uh lots and lots of relationship issues with lots and lots of people, not just your partner, but all kinds of people. There's that, but there's a lot of physical issues as well. and and we know that I'm going to go back and say everything hits the physical body and so people come in with aches and pains here and there and um and I think that's the what that's the thing that people will relate to. They they think I've got a pain in my stomach or whatever and they'll come in because nobody's been able to figure it out or

they don't want to go to a doctor or whatever. And that's uh I mean but that's common really through all the years that I've been practicing. I don't know. How about you Tammy? What resistance? There's a lot of resistance I'm getting and and because I have resistance in my own stuff. Um and then there's fear. A lot of I've been doing a lot of medical intuitive stuff and minutespeople are like you know I'm having this issue and I'm like okay well it's on the right side. Let's look at your father line. let's look at the public line and oh it's on the left it's you know let's look at the mother line and so then they start to go oh and to me people get so

caught up on an outcome they want an outcome and this is the part we already create the outcome we make it happen so it's it's not that's not important to me so let's deal with what's happening now I was saying if you got digestive issues you're in your head right you're in your head a lot because you're heading your digestion and go hand in hand. So, I agree with you with the the relationships people aren't wanting to stay or put up with. They're because they're shifting and they're not wanting to stay in in a pattern. I want to say in a pattern that was comfortable because now we need to get uncomfortable and grow.

So there's a lot people I'm finding a lot of people who want to push through that fear and fear and excitement are the same feeling. They both have that adrenaline and I'm just go as soon as it's super loud you're so close. Keep going. Right. But that's what I find a lot of um physical like you said and a lot of just like or I don't know how. Get rid of how. Okay. Don't worry about how. Let's let's go more on why why is this happening?

That's a big problem especially for me. I'm a big how guy, right? Like it's like how do we do this? How do I do that? How do I do this? And and especially the things that we're talking about here are all the things that are that are advertised to everyone. Get this incredible outcome and here's how you do it and here's incredible outcome and here's how you do it. You're just telling them to like get rid of both of those thoughts and just go deal with the present moment and deal with the why.

Yeah. So why do you want it? What's your drive? You know the outcome you can get. You already know that because you've already visioned the outcome. So it's not about how we get there. It's about why do you want to get there? What do you get from getting there? And is that where we're, shall we call it, rudderless right now? Because our why has become like almost like when we had a united why, we could actually move mountains.

Humans have done this for gen for for millennia. It was like as soon as we have a compelling why, we'll build the pyramids. a compelling why. We'll build we'll build these amazing structures or we'll create these things called countries and we'll like if we have this incredible why, but the why seems to be fragmented and it and it's getting more uh polarized and all the rest of it. I I think I've told all three of you, I think the only thing, one of the things for me, I think the only thing that's going to save the human race is that the aliens have to come down here so we have a new common enemy so we could all rally

minutesaround our new why and just, you know what I mean, at that ground level. But is is that what's going on here is that we've lost our why or we've lost in touch with our own why. And is there a cosmic why behind all this? And that may have been a lot to kind of digest in one question. Well, for me, how is fear and doubt, right? So, as soon as I got a how going on, how do I have to do that? My mind goes, "Oh, I got to do this and I got to figure out every little thing." And we're here, what we think we're here is to find solutions to everything. But if we know why, then we can bring desire in. We can go, okay, this is why we want to bring it forward. And then we can

bring the courage to bring other people in. But as soon as I say, how am I going to do it? My mind goes into a thousand different ways of how I'm not gonna do it because it's too hard or it's too this, right? Yeah. That my uh my my coach my on the business side uh is Dan Sullivan from Strategic Coach um who is um the world's greatest philosopher. He's got he's he comes up with the world's greatest philosophies wrapped in a business blanket. Nobody quits understands that all his teachings are actually quite spiritual and and transcend all these different things, but he's just wrapped it in a business blanket. When he's

talking about you come up with a thing that you want to do, he said, "Don't think about how. Think about who you need to find that will help you collaborate to make it happen." And that's where the joy and the desire comes in is because you go, "Oh, this is this great thing. Oh, it's going to be amazing. Okay, who am I going to find to come and help work with me on this?"

Because it becomes an us thing. And it's and and you're not thinking about all the hows. And see, I'm really bad on the how stuff. Like, I get so bogged into the how, but how you reframed it is how is fear and doubt is beautiful. So, I've got to comment on that, too, because you almost just said it. I was waiting for you to just say it. Um, we don't have a shared vision. Yeah. Right. And you need that in a business.

minutesWe know that in business. If you don't have a shared a vision that people can buy into and see themselves and feel themselves in, you're not going to move anybody, right? and we don't really have that at the leadership level in our countries. And what they're creating is divided um energy and so there's no common vision of where we're going or what we're doing. It's focused on a common enemy which isn't a good way to go, right? So they need to in my opinion it's Nikki's book of beliefs to shift to um a share some kind of vision that people can actually see themselves in.

Right. Yeah. And is this where we're going when we're talking about elevating and we'll start attracting the right people? Like look at these beautiful people I've attracted into my world, the three of you. I love you so much. Because there's that shared vision of a of a higher vibration and a more joyous way of living. That becomes minutesa a shared vision. Do you all see kind of a more concrete shared vision or is it more of a individual vision that just connects with everybody else's vision and becomes a united vision? Do you know can I comment on that for just a sec because I think that you have to have your individual vision first.

You have to understand who you are, what you want. And that's something that people don't know very well is what you want. What do they want? They'll tell you a million things they don't want, but how about what you want? And that comes back to desire, right? And it comes back to Tammy, your comments, too, about the not not the how, but however you said it. You said it beautifully. Why, the why, right?

The why. The why. Right. And so that that's what allows us to dream and to create the dream of what we want. And we're so I think people are so get so stuck in the hamster wheel and the fear they don't even have a chance to think about what do I want for myself or they don't feel like they're allowed to do that for themselves. And this is back to programming again. And that's what I see a lot of with the hypnosis work that I do is through the trauma finding those beliefs, those programs that were set up when they were children that are continually running that just knocked them out at the knees.

You know, if you feel like you're not lovable because you went through lots of terrible things with your parents, you're going to take that into everything you do until you stop and look at it and realize, oh, that's not me. I I I would like to do that differently now. Right? And it's a choice. It's an awareness and it's a choice. So, um, sorry that was a bit of a long answer there.

That's good. So I think individual vision and allowing pe understanding what you want where you want to go and then you see how your values line up with the different um collectives whether it's where you live whether it's family where you live whether it's um this you know the country you live in it's how do my values about and and what I want how does that line up that that comes back to take responsibility for yourself first. Like be responsible for yourself first as opposed to looking to governments or organizations or institutions or shall we even call it spiritual gurus to tell you what the way is as opposed to going it's my not only not so much my responsibility.

Responsibility is a bit of a heavy word, but I call it it's my it's my gift I was given is the power of choice to create and think about a a bigger why for myself and take so then it becomes my it's the gift that I was given and I can either utilize it or I can throw it away and just let the programming run me so to speak. But so you get that individual vision and why first and then go who is coming with me on that trip. It's much more energizing than because for me like anybody tells me what to do, I just won't do it out of principle because I'm just a stubborn Viking, right? Like I mean, come on, it's not going to happen.

But that freedom that really I love that what you said there, Nikki, that's that individual choice to say, what is it? What is my why? And I'm still finding it. Like I still I'm still finding it and uncovering it. and the layers in the work that I do with all three of you just keeps kind of peeling another layer or another block out of the way. Another potential opportunity or hope that I didn't even know existed.

So, I heard one I heard one thing I just going to throw that in and then I'm going to stop talking for a bit. Um the um I was listening to a podcast with Thomas Campbell, quantum physicist, and he said that awareness, sorry, that consciousness is awareness plus choice. Hold on. Let that percolate in. And I went, "Wow, I got to write that one down." Consciousness is awareness plus choice. Very wise words.

I'm I'm I'm interested in hearing what is the most profound profound spiritual insight that you've gained through your practice individually. Well, for me, the most profound thing has been opening my heart. for years and years and years and years because I I didn't start out that way um because of all kinds of things as we know and when I discovered well I I discovered counseling I mean I worked in counseling I worked in all kinds of things but when I discovered the energy work that was the thing that started to open my heart because I could go into a very deep um connection with people and

and my heart started to open. So when your heart opens, you know, you you have a greater love that you have to give. And that's what happened and and it's continued and and I hope I've got another 10 years or so to do this because that's the only thing that I really want to do besides my art, which is another heart opening. That's not as easy as the energy work, but you know, it better be more than 10 years. Denise, you got to be sticking around here with for a while with me. Okay, we got we got some that fortress here. We got some work to do. Okay, we got some works to do. So, you're not this 10 year crap.

You're staying longer than that. Okay, let's go for 50. What? Pick a bigger number. Um Tammy, what about yourself? I agree. It's the opening of the heart. You know, we come come to this planet with an open heart and then we get the condition. So we learn how to get minutesunconditioned and all. For me, work isn't work. It's just play. I want to play in this lifetime. And I don't want to work. So So I don't I'll be honest with you. I just don't want to work. So if I have to if it's work, then I know I need to go to a healer cuz now I'm taking on. So for me it's about play and and seeing the beauty and just kind of going okay there is so much here we're not looking at we're focused over here.

So every time I work with somebody and we have a harp connection it just reminds me even more what I love right that I can play. I get to play and that's important to me. Yeah. I think that one right there just na puts a nail in the coffin on why I came to work with you because that resonates with me. I don't want to work.

Someone says, "Tell me, Eric, what do you do?" Which is basically everybody just trying to find a pecking order of where you, you know, if you're a brain surgeon and they're a ditch digger, they can kind of figure out where you're at. So they say, "Eric, what do you do for a living?" And I'm like, "As little as possible, right?" Like, "Let's have some fun." And the question is, we like I always ask everybody, who are you?

and they tell me their identity and that's not who you are. Who is Eric? Who is Eric? Yeah. Joyful, abundant Viking. Do you know most people don't they go? Well, I I don't know. I've never really thought about it. They used to tell me, "Who am I?" I'm like, "I don't know. Just tell me who I am." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then I can tell people who I am, right? So yeah. Yeah. It's it but it's that joyful, playful, explorer.

This is what I love this theme that's coming through here. We're talking about the, you know, the ethos of the Viking Academy, the mind, the body, and spirit and being an explorer and and all those things. But it didn't come to me easily. I've had to do the the work, right? And not do it on my own. I think that's a big message, too. I want to share this with the listeners is like this is why I'm working with all three of you because I want to un unbburden those layers and so I can figure out who I am like why I'm here and what I'm here to do right and that's for me my ultimate wish and so yeah again when you would

you ask me to begin who you are oh I'm Eric Sbachan I used to be a chartered accountant now I'm blah blah blah and I'm a parent and I'm in this and I'm in that and and now I'm just like and I still don't really know who I am or what I am, but it sure can I can I can taste it more some days, right?

Especially when I'm around the three of you and I'm talking and we're in this mindset and this energy level, this this feels like home to me. Does that make minutessense? Like when I'm out I'm going to point backwards and when I'm out in the real world, quote unquote real world, that's funny. When I'm out in the heavy world, it doesn't feel light and joyful and fun. It feels scary. It feels heavy. It feels filled of remorse and shame and all the things I should be doing like I'm I should on myself all the time. But when we're in this, all of a sudden, it's like this lightness.

It pops up. Nikki, what what's the most profound spiritual insight you've gained? Well, for me, it was falling in love with who I am. Uh again, apparently I've done it many times in past lifetimes, but it's it was really finding myself uh from a spiritual perspective. So I'm more than my physical body and connecting in with that uh larger part of me. I feel like it I I I say I bring people back to life, you know, which is love and full expression. And I did that for myself. And that was a really big thing for me because like Denise talked about um we come in and we we got to go through all of our crap too, right? Like it wasn't easy getting to where we are.

Um and that helps us do our work so that we can be in service to others. Yeah. So that's it for me. And you have your book right there behind you for those who are not watching the video is the self self-love. I I I love that. Yeah. So that's that's my journey is helping people get back to feeling really loving towards themselves. Yes. Right. That's important. That's the heart piece.

You know, just to kind of land the plane a little bit more for the listener. Um I would love to hear what you what practices or habits you would recommend for daily integration for people's spiritual awareness. like what would you for the person that's like well how do I like where do I get started on this what should I do is there any kind of daily practices let's put it let's split it up into two parts actually let's say what have you what do you do for yourselves on a daily basis and what would you recommend to someone who's just starting out their journey they're just getting started so maybe we'll start off what

would you recommend to someone just getting started we'll do that first and then the part of the question is what do you do for yourself on a daily basis because again my experience experience has been. It changes depend on your perspective on where you're at, right? So, um well, okay. Yes. Go ahead. Okay. Um I I'm just thinking, you know, like I think um meditation is really important and you can you can do that in so many ways that you want to put yourself in the zone basically is what to me what meditation is. so that you can reach deeper levels of your being. And sometimes, like that's not the same for everybody.

I don't mean go sit in a chair and close your eyes and hold your hands the right way. And I I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about if if you find that that level of of depth out in nature, then do that. Do lots of that. Uh if you find it swimming, do that. If you if you do find it sitting in a chair and whatever, do that. But find find a way that actually brings you into yourself and you can forget the whole world that's out there and all the things that are going on and all the things you have to do so you can get really true with yourself and you might only start two or

three at a time you know but you will you will find yourself that 40 50 will go by if you'll stay with it that's one of the first things the other thing I think is journaling is really important and and you know that's kind I have to say that's kind of one of my take my advice and not using it because I, you know, I um I journal and then I'll just journal like crazy and then I won't do it for months, you know. And but I think that's that is the way life works. We're not supposed to do everything, you know, all the time. We're not we we if you know that journaling is important, then you know when to journal, so you do that. So that's really important.

Uh you were going to say something. No, I just love that because I remember uh one of the spiritual teachers that I've spent a lot of time watching and listening and reading is Krishna Mertie and Krishna Murdy has talked about very often he was supposed to be the new messiah that they had they had identified him at a young age that he was going to be the next coming of Christ or whatever. And then they're like please tell us your teachings and he's like what's the methodology? What's the system? and he goes, "There isn't one." Because the you do a system, you're instantly conditioning yourself and you've just lost the openness to experiencing life as it is.

Right? And so that, you know, I flip-flop between that, too. I'll do some I'll do a little practice on a regular basis and then all of a sudden it'll fall away and I'll sh on myself and say, "Oh, I should be getting back to that." But what you just did is you gave me the you gave me the freedom and , 6 secondsthe and the the the um ability to just not worry about that, , 13 secondsright? You gave you gave me permission to not keep going because it's actually a good thing because if we're doing the same thing all the time, then we get into a mechanical state and then it , 21 secondsdoesn't then it it negates what we're actually trying to move forward on.

, 25 secondsYeah. If you're listening, if you're listening to yourself in inwardly, you're listening. You know when to do things and you just know and and it , 35 secondsisn't that it isn't that I have to I should. It's just you do it and then you find yourself doing it and say, "Oh, this is fine. I'm glad I did that." But , 43 secondsyou you just know actually it's kind of like a not knowing knowing , 51 secondsin a way. It's kind of to me anyway. I just sometimes I'm just surprised I get there and I think, whoa, I didn't know I , 58 secondsneeded to do that. Oh, that is Tammy, you're laughing and smiling. What

What What do you have to say about um daily I think I resonate with exactly what Denise says there. It's very much and I always know if I'm resisting it, it's what I need to do. Yeah. So when I do when I when there I'm like I'll I need to do this and I'll find 50 different things to do because I know what I need to do. We all I feel we all know it's just now taking that responsibility and doing it right. So moving energy in our body, spending time in nature, getting out of here, getting in our hearts, you know, doing what we love, play, joy, bringing back that little child within oursel and giving permission to do and and not have to all

the time because it's not all about we have cycles, right? We have those cycles and you know, sometimes we're this we're building and then sometimes we rest. You know, it's not all or nothing anymore. It's it's the gray. It's the flow. I love it. Responsibility is just the ability to respond. Period. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's not a have to, should it's not that. It's just the ability to respond in my mind.

Nikki, what are your daily integration techniques or ideas that you do for yourself or would you recommend for others? Yeah, all all the things that I do I would recommend. I I I I eat my own sorry dog food. That's was it for a long time and that's what we used to do. Eat your own dog food when we do early stuff. So I I would recommend um the things that I do. I I get grounded every day. I think that's really really important right now with all of these huge energies coming in and all this stress all around us because even if you're disconnecting yourself from the news and not want reading the paper that energy is out there anyway you're still picking it up and feeling it. So um get

yourself grounded. Um the other thing is you can't create anything on this planet if you're not attached to it. So, so if you're floating, if your energy is lifting in your body and you're floating up here, you're you can't manifest and bring anything in. So, get grounded. Really, really important. And how would you recommend people get grounded just so we can get some more terapirma on that one?

Okay. Well, there's lots of different ways to do it. Go out in nature is one way. Put your feet on the ground. Take your shoes and socks off and stick your feet in the dirt. That's one way to do it. You can also just imagine that um uh you've got roots going from your feet down into the very center of the earth. There's grounding foods you can eat, you know, like like root vegetables are very grounding. Um being in water is really grounding as well. So swimming, taking a bath, if you're feeling kind of chaotic, just go take a bath because it it will

, 4 minuteshelp to ground your energy. So there's some really simple things you can do there. Um the other thing that I do that I recommend if people want to um create a spiritual connection to be able to sort of access more intuition is to connect with your higher self every day just as part of your grounding. Just it's super simple. You just say it out loud. Say it in your head. I always say it out loud. I just invite your higher self to come around you connect with your energy and help you to feel that they're there. And it you might not feel

it right away, but there will come a day and it won't be too long where you'll feel your energy field get full and you'll be connected. And that is very heart opening and it's super easy to do. Super super easy to do. And then you're working together, right? You said you you feel your energy. Say that again. You feel your personal I feel your energy around you get full.

I can feel it when my higher self comes around me every day. I I can feel when when she comes in, it just feels full in my energy and it's like tingly. It's like, oh, you're there. How exciting, you know? And then we're working together to create a beautiful day, right? Ask your higher self to help you. It's all you got to do.

That tingle I I I know the tingle you're talking about. It's that it's like an energy that's just enveloping and it's a tingle and a light. You almost almost feel like I'm lifting out of my body at the same time. like it's almost a lifting a lightness expanding through expansion. I'm so glad you mentioned that, Nikki, because that's the first thing I do before I meditate. Like, and I, you know, I was so ungrounded for the first half of my life that honestly um I I had no clue. And so, but it was interesting that that's exactly what I do before I I meditate and both of those things. And I thought I didn't even think to mention

it, but it that's the that's the whole point of it. So, I Yeah. becomes so automatic, right? I ground myself before I get out of bed. Well, yes. Yes. That's I love I love this. There's so there's some actionable steps here for the listener here. I mean, you got meditation and journaling, journaling, daily play, getting grounded and connecting with your higher power, right? Those are like those are your those are really simple. They they they're simple but not easy, right? They're simple but not easy for some people. Like it's like it doesn't but don't it from my experience is the I try and overthink it probably damn he's laughing because now I'm in

the how and grinding away in this a type personality Nikki knows that one right but just keeping it simple and just you know it doesn't have to be so complicated stop telling yourself it's not easy listen to the story you're telling right that's the conditioning that's the programming start listening to what you're saying out loud to yourself. Yeah.

I listen to all these expressions of, "Oh, yeah, that that whatever that almost killed me." And I thought, "Would you please stop talking like that because your unconscious mind is listening and it's not discerning whether it's a good or bad thing. It's just listening." Yeah. So, pay attention to the stories you're telling.

It's easy, but my mind will sometimes tell me it's hard or it's not. It's it's it's hard. It's that conditioning that's doing that, but I don't I don't have to attach myself to that. It is easy. Everything we're talking about is easy. Yeah. Light and easy, right? Um, so I'm going to get one more question in here and then what I want to do is I want to switch over to some of the questions that the Viking Academy um uh members have have put forward for their specific questions. But um what is one lesson from your own personal healing journey that has taught you that you wish you could let everybody else know about?

What is one lesson from your own healing journey that you've experienced that you wish everyone else could know about? Well, for me it's to listen. It really is just listening. We guess ourselves. If we would just listen to our own inner voice, we have that connection. And I don't know how many people I've told it's like why do we guess? Because we're again it's programming but it's the whole thing of just going well I knew it but I didn't do it. And it's like well start just doing it. Start trusting that listening because there's more to be heard than there is to say.

Beautiful. If anybody can see my face on the video. I just needed to hear that. So for me, the message would be that I'll say it this way, you matter. So I matter, right? That's what I learned is that I matter. And um I don't have to take what's given. I can do what's right for me. So knowing that for your listeners that every single one of them matters. You're meant to be here.

You're not here by accident. So, um, it's it's a privilege to be here and you matter. You're here to do something for you and for the world. That almost sounded like a Viking Academy plug. That was beautiful, Denise. Well, you know, I I'm just thinking uh gosh, you know, I think the the the lesson for me was knowing I like positively knowing that that myself and everybody has we have so much support so much support in the universal realms.

It is it's unbelievable the things that I have found support in. I it it's just it's unexplainable. It's it's the thing that makes life magic to me. It's just it's just magic, you know? I I I don't know. I think that's the biggest thing for me is knowing that it's all here. We're all good. And and I loved what both of you said too because learning that was a long learning that I matter that that was really important and listening.

Yeah, those were some gems for any of you listening to the podcast. Go back and listen to it again. Okay, let's switch over to some Viking Academy members questions. So, I have I've got a couple here. Um, so one is Ryan Makawitch. And so Ryan asked me to ask this for you. And I'm going to throw this to the I'm going to throw this to the round table. I'm going to let you all take a take your shot at it and just go criss-cross.

And however it however the energy moves you, let's make it happen. So here's Ryan's question. For the past few months, I've been having some nagging lower back and hip flexor issues. I've been to I've been in to see physiootherapists, massage therapists, and and an osteopath about this. The osteopath made the comment, "Man, your body is just in constant fight or flight." I would like to dig deeper into the why of this and realize and really have no idea why this would be the case. You're going to love this.

I have no real traumas or issues I'm dealing with. So, where is this coming from? Why is my body behaving this way? Well, it's coming from him. For one thing, it's coming from him. So, I think one of the first things he might want to look at is like what are his concerns right now? Let's not go into stress or h how awful it is, but what are his concerns right now? like it's his age, his money, his his relationship, is he worried about his kids or his parents or whatever or the world. Is he picking up is he picking up um you know mass consciousness because that's the other

thing that we haven't talked about is people are people like are picking up mass consciousness like crazy right now and you know all the fear that's going on in the planet and everything people are absorbing. I've done the last three sessions I've done have been a lot of it had been just releasing the mass consciousness before I got to their own issues. So anyway, what do you guys think?

Just on one comment on that. So when he says I have no real traumas or issues I'm dealing with so where is this coming from? It's I don't believe that. , 13 minutesNo, no, that I know that's why I kind of I I kind of highlighted on that. It's like it is there. It's just you're not consciously aware of it. So the action step for him on yours, write out a list of all the things you're thinking about and worrying about in your life. And when people think of trauma, sometimes they're thinking it's got to be this big horrible thing that happened to me in my past where I was abused or horrible car

accident or whatever. My experience so far has been these little these traumas happen all the time and they're not big or small. They're just things that have imprinted on me and and they're caring or they can actually be present. So you're looking when you're telling about he's it's the present thoughts that he's dealing with right now.

Well, not necessarily because it could be something he could be in a cycle like he could be in a Saturn return. He could be in a a Saturn opposition. He could be something that's been unresolved 13 years ago, 15 years ago, 12 years ago. It could be a Jupiter thing. It, you know, the planets are are very tight right now. All of the planets are tight right now. and he could be in a cycle that he hasn't resolved from the age of 12 or 15 or 18 or and that's highly likely anyway. I want to hear from you because the body knows and it holds on right the body knows.

So the hip hips are about moving forward. The hips are about the family lines. Okay. Where is he not getting support in the that lower back? Where is he fearing maybe money or or um why I can't move forward? Why is this happening? So he's looking external to me or answers when he's got to go inward. Yeah.

And kind of go okay well what does this mean? Right side is to me public side if his right hip and when I was in nursing when my right hip was hurting it meant I really didn't want to be nursing right. So I didn't want to be there and then like cuz there was a lot of stuff and and then the left side is that intuition that past okay where where in our family or mother or father lines haven't we really dealt anything and then we go into that Saturn return or the Jupiter you know okay my 18year-old is you know there's a layer here that's just now showing up at 50ome years old. Yeah.

Right. So, yeah. And I would agree on the hips. Hips are it's a really interesting spot to find this pain because hips also relate to joy. Yeah. You can't feel joy. You can have hip problems because they're tight, right? Um it's also where the root chakra is, which is all about your safety. Yes. And um believe it or not, sometimes when the root chakra is too open, you cannot feel safe. So you need to close it down to about 10%.

So close that route just by intention. You don't have to do anything special. Just imagine yourself closing it down to 10%. Um but also I would ask where do you feel unsafe in your life? What areas of , 16 minutesyour life do you feel unsafe in? And I would also being a a hypnotherapist say that there may be traumas in the past. And Eric, you're right. It may, you know, somebody saying something to you when you're five when you've heard it in three little ways before. That's the thing that turns it into this Yeah. thing that sticks and then it becomes the conditioning and you've got

this core belief about yourself or whatever that is. So, they're there. Um, and it's just willingness to explore that and you know, you can use hypnosis to go back. You can journal on it. um you can just do a meditation and let it pop up if it's ready. And so when the unconscious mind represses information, it's because um at that age that it occurred, it didn't feel safe or comfortable, you couldn't process it. The unconscious mind knows that. When you get to a point in your life where the unconscious mind says, "Oh, you can handle this now." Up it comes. Sometimes it comes out through

physical things. So I would just say be open to exploring that maybe there is something in the past that you need to look at um and just check out where you don't feel safe in your life. Yeah. Y you have no idea how much I'm enjoying this this this whole first Odin round table like I am like vibrating right now. I've been writing so much stuff down and the listeners, the Viking Academy members, if you're not a again, it may sound like a commercial plug here, but if you're not a member of the Viking Academy, get in there because we're going to do more of these in the future where people can ask their specific questions and eventually we'll bring them in on the actual Zoom calls.

We're going to do that in the future, too. That was that's a plan. So, this this is great. Okay, so let's get to Julian. Julian Gordon, she asked the two questions here. This first part is how can we become better at understanding and taking action on our unique spiritual abilities. How can we become better at understanding and taking action on our unique spiritual abilities?

Was that Denise? going back to well going back to actually our I don't know that our spiritual abilities are unique but because I think they are but they are but I think it goes back to as Nikki said grounding you know going like it it's all about taking time for yourself and and knowing that you matter knowing that you're here for a reason um you may not know what it is but it will show you if you just stop and and stop worrying and stop, you know, stop all the stuff that you're doing. Get off the phone, get off the screen, you know, like all those things, all the distractions that are in the world today. Stop all of that for, you know, 20 a day to start with. Stop

, 19 minutesand it'll all come true because you know, you know already. You do know. You just don't know that you know it. The irony is not lost on me that this medium that we're doing here is bringing it out into the social media world. We'll call it the video and the audio and they're listening to this and we're telling them to stop listening to this.

But we all know it's true, right? Like it's but here's maybe that beacon of hope. It's just like, "Hey, go outside." Just a reminder, another reminder to go outside. Um after the podcast is done though. Yeah. After the podcast, listen to the listen to the entire podcast. Exactly. couple times. So, I would say I would say you gota you have to get connected first.

So, if you want to know what it is that you're bringing down as a spiritual gift, you got to get connected first. You got to do well clearing work first, connected first, and then once you have an idea of what it is, it's figuring out what's holding you back. What's the fear? Wh why am I stopping myself? So, it's becoming really aware.

So, it's the awareness and how you want to take things out into the world or take them into your life, you know, and you don't have to do it in a huge way. You can do it in a it's just for me way and that's perfectly fine. And sorry, Charlie, go ahead. No, that's okay. Mine was just getting rid of the how. Yeah, I love that. Right. Because that's the fear and doubt. So, asking why that fear is there. Why am I not able to connect with that unique spirit? You know, like asking questions without the how.

So the actual verbiage of the question is is ne you negate the question by changing the question. How can we become better at understanding and taking action? It's like why do you want to become better at understanding and taking action on your unique abilities? If you think about the why then it becomes purposeful and desire and higher vibration and then it will show its manifest itself to you. Yes. Yes.

I love this podcast. Okay, last question. This one's going to be an interesting one. I'm very curious to see how you answer this. The question she asked, which I was actually going to ask you as well, but I'm curious on this. Are any of you or your clients using AI to enhance their spiritual journey? And if so, how much? AI has got to be the biggest hot topic and hotbed out there in terms of business and efficiencies and taking away jobs and all the rest of that. I've never seen someone reframe it in a way of using artificial intelligence to help enhance your spiritual journey.

So the question is is are any of you or your clients using AI to enhance their spiritual journey? o I am using AI but not I don't think on my spiritual journey but uh I have no clients have ever talked to me about the use of AI for that. I use it in business for organizing myself because it's a lot to organize a business as you know and um so it depends if you look at my spiritual journey is my work right so I guess I am on some respects right because my I feel like my my my work is my spiritual journey so I am using AI but not in a spiritual way it's in more of an administrative content tell me if this sounds right way, right? So, I haven't gone any further than that.

Yeah, that's how I'm using AI as well is I'm using it um quite a bit in in when I I'm an abstract painter, so I I don't know what I'm doing. I just do and and then I look at it and then, you know, we're supposed to have a title for it if you want to, you know, market it and everything else. So a title for the painting and I look at it and I think I have no idea what what am I how am I supposed to so I so I use AI for that.

Absolutely. And it's brilliant I have to say. Oh you take a picture of it and then you ask AI give me a title. Yeah. And and it'll offer some things and then it starts and I oh that's interesting. Yeah that figures that because you know I I don't paint things that I can see. I don't you know I I I don't paint real Tammy for me. No, the only AI I use is the ones that are not on the of this world. Okay.

Those are the only ones that I channel in and I ask them. Technology and me are not something um that I know well. I just I navigate what I have to to do my job. But no, I have no interest in it. and and everybody's like, "Yeah, but you can write things." I'm like, "Yeah, figure it out." I just don't Yeah, it's just something that I have not yet touched on. I'm not saying I'm not going to, but that what I I use are beings.

So, what I love is when you think about this, the the word is called artificial intelligence, which means not real. It's artificial intelligence. And everything that we've talked about on this round table has been about connecting to the intelligence which is real which is inside each one of us which we have complete access to which there's an incredible abundance of and it's here to help you because you matter but what you need to do is ask and listen to it.

That is the intelligence that we're really tapping into here. You can use the artificial intelligence to do say , 25 minutesthe 3D dimensional world stuff right it's a good it helps us there but does it help us with our creativity and our imagination and feel making us feel connected to the world no and so you know the one thing AI hasn't been able to do is it's actually trying to catch up to us in terms of our processing ability and I don't think it ever will because we are connected to a higher plane which what all three of you have taught me and and and and shared with me when we when we leave this and so we're going to do one

I'm going to do one last little thing here for the Odin's round table and I I've absolutely loved this is what would be for you individually what would be a takeaway for yourselves from this session from round table here what would be one takeaway that you would get from having this conversation with all of you and going through these questions. For me, just the joy, real joy and and and fun of spending time with the three of you.

That's the takeaway for me. I feel like I mean I've never met I've never met you ladies but I'll tell you it's been lovely to to just spend time with you and it's been great because when we when we have a have conversations with people that we align with it's just so much fun. Yeah. It's play right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. And just likeminded people. So then it brings in a community, right? Having a community to connect with. Yeah. Yeah.

Is that your takeaway, Tammy? My takeaway. That's your take with the community. Yeah. And my takeaway is um all of those wonderful things. And I feel like I need to make a couple more appointments because it's fun. It's the play part for me. Yeah. And that's for me. I'm going to add this. I haven't been contributing on the questions per se, but this is my big takeaway is that I love each and every one of you so much. And I want to do more of these in the future. Let's see what the uh I have a very strong why behind it. I'm going to let the spirit show me the how, which has been this first one. We weren't sure how I wasn't sure how this first one was going to go.

I did my best, Tammy. I tried really hard not to ask the how. No, I did okay. But so far, thank you. Thank you. Um, but we're going to do more of these in the future. I thank and love each one of you and let's do this again in the future. Okay. Great. Thank you. You too. Thank you. Thank you so much, everybody. You Thank you. Bye.

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